tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8733237723736505538.post5788001977981969324..comments2023-07-25T04:15:48.520-07:00Comments on Autobiog by M.Lawrenson: Bad BloodLizard Seerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07497330695288945161noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8733237723736505538.post-58944230540742575622017-02-09T07:34:05.543-08:002017-02-09T07:34:05.543-08:00Yvan - see comments on Mark Dredge's post (wha...Yvan - see comments on Mark Dredge's post (whatever happened to <b>him</b> eh?) <a href="http://www.pencilandspoon.com/2010/11/european-beer-bloggers-conference-2011.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>. I quite liked the idea of a conference of beer bloggers, but clearly that's not what was being proposed, or for that matter who it was being proposed by.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07009879034507926661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8733237723736505538.post-21586826425438105732017-02-09T06:55:37.935-08:002017-02-09T06:55:37.935-08:00Bring back "Seeing the Lizards". The ki...Bring back "Seeing the Lizards". The kidz want yuks.StringersBeerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12573068197944669997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8733237723736505538.post-11168233077901823112017-02-09T05:51:38.183-08:002017-02-09T05:51:38.183-08:00This is the blogpost I published and then deleted ...<a href="http://www.pubcurmudgeon.org.uk/misc/beerpeople.html" rel="nofollow">This is the blogpost</a> I published and then deleted around this time last year questioning whether beer people really were such good people as some claimed. <br /><br />Some people can be incredibly precious and insular about the subject.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8733237723736505538.post-10353903318943659172017-02-09T05:12:33.082-08:002017-02-09T05:12:33.082-08:00The whole "beer people are good people" ...The whole "beer people are good people" is an inane vanity of craft beer sycophants. Try participating in the industry... and I mean by actually doing stuff, putting some proper skin in the game - making beer, getting beer to people, selling it to punters. It's a harsh world and there are a lot of shysters in it - bad people, no shortage of. Beer people are just people - like you say. Flawed - and often mercenary, desperate, devious, fraudulent, and just plain incompetent... an exhibit of all the failings of humanity.<br /><br />What are "beer people" anyway...<br /><br />As for the "sexism debate" - proper nest of vipers that I must try and keep myself out of. Anything you say will be misconstrued by a certain breed trolls - words put in your mouth, offence invented to vent their hate at. And age? Sure, not all old beer people are sexist arseholes & there are plenty of messed up young misogynists... but to deny there have not been generational changes (improvements) is laughable. (Albeit I'm not sure how this squares with this era of El Presidente Trump I must admit.)<br /><br />I've always generally enjoyed your posts. I too am a pessimist and cynic. I saw the mechanics of Big Beer Buying Out Beer Nerds when I went to the "European Beer Bloggers Conference" in Edinburgh - it was interesting, not so much for the buttering-up-the-bloggerati but more for how the bloggerati lap-it-up. [And this is no comment about anyone mentioned above as I don't think any of them were there.] Seeing the whole gestation of Pilsner Urquell's aggressive marketing push to become the awesomest craft macro-brew evahhh (and I do not hold it against them, it's people doing their jobs and the beer isn't that bad... but). That was the weekend I lost interest in blogging. (I also got ripped off by "Let There Be Beer"... another story entirely.)<br /><br />And my lord can it be a bit too fucking saccharine, arse-licking, and high-horsey at times laced with naïvity and misinformation. Often from folk who've barely yet developed any technical clue.<br /><br />Which is why I like what you usually write Mr Lawrenson. It's a counterpoint.<br /><br />I am not, of course, innocent of all of the above myself. I look in the mirror (when I cannot avoid it) and the flaws of humanity are reflected back.<br /><br />But anyway, those things said, I'd suggest you'd be best off stepping back from this, scoping the lie of the land... it's really not worth it. Bring the blog back though, and continue in your usual style.Yvan Sethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00010793966739437289noreply@blogger.com